On the back half of the Teen Mom 2 Season 5 reunion special, Jenelle Evans and Chelsea Houska were in the hot seat with Dr. Drew. What did we learn?
After a montage of clips you've all seen if you watch Teen Mom 2, Jenelle defends her increasingly turbulent relationship with boyfriend Nathan Griffith.
Just because they love each other does not mean they are perfect, she says, a familiar strategy of pointing out the obvious, yet not the root of their issues.
Jenelle Evans reacts similarly to questions about her legal issues, saying simply, "When you're young and stupid, you did young and stupid things."
Profound stuff right there.
Asked why would they have another child when they already have kids by other people and neither one of them has custody, Jenelle had an interesting response.
"I think we can prove to everyone we can be good parents," she explains, noting that Nathan is battling his ex for increased, daily visits with his daughter.
Dr. Drew gives her due credit, saying how proud he is of her for being in school and putting her life back together and making some positive changes.
Nathan and Jenelle's mom, the always-hilarious Barbara Evans, come on next and Babs is asked point blank if she thinks they're ready to have a kid.
Always blunt, Barbara admits she is not happy about the second child, and wishes Jenelle took some more time for herself before getting pregnant.
However, Barbara admits that she's very proud of Jenelle because she's come so far, and says she even likes Nathan, despite his lack of a paying job.
Jenelle posted this pic to Instagram. She's currently 29 weeks pregnant.
2. Jenelle Evans: Baby Bump Image
Jenelle just a few weeks pregnant. She's been posting selfies every step of the way.
3. Jenelle Evans' Pierced Baby Bump
Leave it to Jenelle Evans to post a baby bump photo like this one.
4. Jenelle Evans Bump
Jenelle Evans' baby bump would be cuter if we weren't petrified for the actual baby once he's born. Nice photo though.
5. Jenelle Evans Bump Pic
Jenelle Evans showing off her baby bump. She and Nathan Griffith are expecting.
6. Jenelle Evans Nude Baby Bump
Jenelle Evans just posted this nude baby bump pic on the Internet. Because obviously.
7. Jenelle Evans Pregnant
Jenelle Evans was pregnant at the time this picture was taken. She was also like 16.
8. Nathan Griffith and Jenelle
Nathan Griffith and Jenelle Evans have already been through a ton together.
9. Jenelle Evans Baby Bump at the Gym
Jenelle Evans just posted this gym-themed baby bump pic on the Internet. Because obviously.
10. Jenelle Evans Baby Bump Pics
Jenelle Evans posted these early baby bump pics on Instagram. So cute.
11. Jenelle Evans: Baby Bump Collage
Jenelle's self-made collage of selfies. This girl really likes taking pictures of herself.
When Nathan claims that he and Jenelle support each other in every sense, Barbara is unmoved. She also worries about their fights and how Jace sees them.
Hey, she is who she is. Barbara can be strict, and even a little out of line herself, but she has helped Jenelle put her life back together and her daughter knows it.
Regarding Chelsea Houska, Dr. Drew jumps right in on Adam Lind.
Chelsea admits that it was scary when Adam filed for visitation rights, because she did not want to lose time with Aubree. Especially to this person.
She elaborates on why she wishes she had chosen a better father for her child, given that Adam has three DUI's on his record and has been arrested 30 times.
Of course, she still bangs him periodically, including once while his current girlfriend, Taylor Halbur, was pregnant with his second daughter, Paislee.
Dr. Drew is shocked by this, as is everyone else.
Chelsea will sit there and bash Adam for being a bad boyfriend, bad father and bad person, then bone him behind his pregnant girlfriend's back?
Issues. Randy is not gonna be happy.
Adam comes out and claims he's only been arrested 8-10 times (not 30), and says he's sober, as his two year probation sentence requires this.
Adam admits that his cheating on Taylor was very difficult for their relationship, and he is trying to move forward without any interference from Chelsea.
They argue a lot about visitation. It's painful, even if Adam is trying to be more forthcoming than his usual monosyllabic responses on Teen Mom 2.
The often reckless Adam doesn't have a license, he has a work permit. This means he can only drive to and from work, and nowhere else. Wow.
Chelsea's dad Randy Houska comes out and praises Chelsea's achievements in school and her new job as an aesthetician, as well as her independence.
Randy also says that Adam's visitations are not unreasonable at all, but he is concerned about Aubree's future with Adam because he is unstable.
When it's Adam's turn again, he immediately calls out Randy for bashing him online, which the elder Houska apparently does ... somewhat surprisingly.
He has no excuse for that, and Adam continues his rant about how everyone just focuses on his bad boy ways and not the strides he has made.
Of course, we would like to see more of those strides and not just him convincing us they exist, but what are you gonna do. That's Adam Lind for you.
Amber Portwood and Gary Shirley FIGHT on MTV's Teen Mom. It's one for the ages right here.
2. Farrah Abraham Sex Tape
Farrah Abraham, star of the original Teen Mom, went on to star in a porn video called Backdoor Teen Mom, which she tried to pass off as a "leaked" sex tape.
3. Jenelle Evans Beats Up Girl, Gets Arrested
Teen Mom 2's Jenelle Evans beat the crap out of Brittany Truett a few years ago in one of the more graphic fight videos we've ever seen.
4. Farrah Abraham on Dr. Phil
Farrah Abraham gets put in her place by Dr. Phil. You gotta watch this interview clip.
5. Jenelle Evans Fights Roommate
Jenelle Evans fights her roommate in an epic scene from Teen Mom 2.
6. Kailyn Lowry Fight
Domestic violence is not just for Amber Portwood. Kailyn Lowry gets into a fight with now husband Javi on Teen Mom 2.
7. Teen Mom 2 Commercial: Barbara Raps!
Jenelle's mom Barbara actually sort of raps in this awesome ad for Teen Mom 2.
8. Teen Mom 3 Trailer
There was a Teen Mom 3 for one season. Then it was canceled, but here's a look at some of the drama those girls faced.
9. Teen Mom 2 Trailer: Season 5
Teen Mom 2 Season 5 begins January 21 on MTV. Here's a look at some of what you can expect.
10. Leah Messer's Miscarriage
Leah Messer suffered a miscarriage before getting pregnant again with new husband Jeremy Calvert.
11. Leah Messer-Corey Simms Split
Leah Messer and Corey Simms shockingly broke up after a wedding and two daughters together.
12. Catelynn Lowell and Tyler Baltierra (In General)
Catelynn Lowell and Tyler Baltierra are step-siblings and parents and lovers. That alone is pretty insane, but they make it work.
13. Kieffah
Kieffer Delp romanced Jenelle Evans for a time and contributed to some of her more epic meltdowns.
14. Amber Portwood in Jail
Amber Portwood did time for drug charges. HARD time. She was locked up for about a year and a half.
15. Chelsea Houska Cries
The most shocking thing about Chelsea Houska crying all the time on Teen Mom 2 was that she didn't move on from Adam Lind much sooner.
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